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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.29 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zacheria Malfor Simple rule; "If it's not broken, don't try and fix it".
There is nothing wrong with the Brutix or Myrmidon bonuses. Both ships have their uses and are useful in numerous situations another thing to take into consideration is that in all likely hood any changes made to the Brutix would need to trickle down to the Astarte and the Eos.
There is no fault with either ship, they have their roles.
/Zacheria Malfor
This. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 29/08/2008 11:08:34 Basically, Brutix wastes a bonus with the repair amount bonus. There is no reasonable way to fit a Brutix which makes use of the bonus in the first place - you need a Electron fit to dual-rep it, and then it has horrible DPS and preety lousy tank. - A falloff bonus would serve it better (improving it's horrible performance outside of hugging range). - A ROF bonus would serve it awesomely well (would push DPS to the roof however). Perhaps too well for a Tier 1 BC. - A armour amount bonus would serve it much much better, since gank Brutix fits currently lack any sort of EHP.
Changing the Brutix's bonuses from armour repair amount doesn't have anything to do with the fundamental weaknesses of active tanks, it's got to do with the fact you cannot fit a Brutix to have a tank and anything resembling reasonable DPS.
Yeah ofc the rep bonus is wasted BUT the brutix is still pretty much THE best tier 1 BC. If youre going to give brutix love you gonna need to give alot of love to the other 3 BCs aswell. Myrm is fine also. No need for pre nerf BS dps madness, kthx. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Yes, a tank-oriented BC outdamaging preety much everyone was horribly broken, but it's arguably a bit 'meh' right now unless you specifically need the tank - swapping its tank bonus for a gun damage bonus would make it preform preety much the same as everyone else does, however.
Ye, but you dont want to break the ship progression thing too much between myrm and domi. They need to be drone boats primarily. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Angus
Originally by: Artemis Rose
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Yes, but the problem is the Gallente bonus is complete trash. Active tanks suck in PvP, so it's a worthless bonus. You might as well give the Gallente BCs a bonus to civilian hybrid turret damage, it would be about as useful.
What idiocy this is.
Just because it is "in" to be a buffer HP ship, does not automatically mean that you can not active tank for PvP.
Just means you will die, active tanks only work when tank is bigger or similar to incoming dps which is hardly ever, especially on a gallente blaster boat, add neuts and its even worse
There is nothing wrong with repping while flying solo or small gang. Maybe you should have thought twice about picking a race with active tanking bonus if youre not into that kind of pvp? ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: london
Indeed, I found it a bit of a toss up between a passive armor buffer tanking and an active repping tank in a solo or small gang scenario. The buffer must be really huge to out do a ship with the ability to repair it's armor (given that the cap booster charges last that is ). Once the passive tank runs out, your done... so If the other guy has been able to repair all your damage and not run out of charges, your left in a bit of a pickle.
This is based on my experience with battleships anyways.
Exactly, a well tanked domi for example will beat any amarr bs heads up because your buffer simply isnt enough while he can overheat rep and cap boost long enough to cap you out and to wear down your passive armor. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
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